Greatest Film Franchises
Potential SPOILERS for any of these films. Which ones you ask? I guess you’ll have to read and find out.
Andrew 19:56
hey
Chris 19:56
Grumble.
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i dont know how to respond to that
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Blrgh?
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ready for franchise fanboyism?
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As ready as a Jawa in a scrap metal field.
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you are so lame
So I compiled a list of favorites and objectively good, which are we going with?
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I’m going my objectively favorite franchises.
Does that work?
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not really, but go ahead with your number 5, as well as why you picked it
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Just a second…getting a phone call…
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priorities Chris, priorities
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It’s my mother, and it’s her birthday. I’m answering the damn phone.
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your mother’s birthday is more important than discussing which franchise of films is the best? you disappoint me sir
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Ok, sorry.
I’m back.
Ok, I’m going to explain my judging criteria for this list.
I have three criteria that I chose each franchise on.
1) The movies have to have a technical merit that has made them an indisputable asset to the film world.
2) I had to enjoy the majority of the movies. A few of these franchises will have films I did not enjoy, even really disliked, but they still don’t take away from the accomplishments of the good ones.
3) The nostalgia factor. These franchises are ones that I can pinpoint where I was when I saw every one of these movies, and they have a personal connection to my life.
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you type slow
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Maybe you just comprehend slow.
On that note, I’m going to state my number 5 franchise. It’s a bit of a controversial one, but I like these movies…
The Terminator series.
I’ll take a moment for that to sink in for you.
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I considered Terminator
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Ok, I’ll explain this one point by point.
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The amazingness of 1 & 2 could arguably overcome the terribleness of 3 & 4
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Clearly, the current state of CGI in movies would be no where if it weren’t for T2.
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well, Idk about that
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I do.
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it was certainly a big leap, but the Abyss did a similar thing with the water tenticle
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The first movie is one of the best low budget sci-fi movies of its time.
It’s amazing how well the story holds up today, even if the effects are a little lackluster for today’s audiences.
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I would argue that Jurassic Park & T2 really did effects the biggest favor together
JP was the first photo real animals, and I think that has had more impact than liquid metal guy, although both are increadibly important
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As for my second point, I actually really enjoyed Terminator Salvation.
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well thats a problem
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I don’t like T3 that much, but it wasn’t as bad as most people think it was.
It was still a fun movie.
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I would disagree, mainly because it destroys the plot of the first two
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Even if the story took away a little from the first two in the series.
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ok, here’s my #5
Toy Story
yea, try to argue against that
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I won’t, and you’ll see why later.
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basically invented 3d animated film, maintained a streak of just insane awesomeness, and open and closed my childhood
nice subtle hint there btw
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I wasn’t trying to be subtle, haha.
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obviously
ok, your #4?
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Ok, number 4: Harry Potter.
I will admit, this one has a great deal to do with the nostalgia factor.
Harry Potter was my teenage years.
It helped me through hard times.
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You won’t find Harry Potter on my list, but only because I don’t have a strong connection to it
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I also really think it made an invaluable contribution to the film world by having a series that lasted 10 years, telling the same story with the same actors and the same writer.
People will be looking at it for decades to come on how to make an epic story over a longer period of time.
Not to mention, I really enjoyed 6 out of the 8 films, which isn’t bad at all.
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Here’s my deal, while most of the films in the series are good, there are none that I think are really in that upper sphere of Greatness
So I can respect a lot about the series, and if this was a top ten list it would be on mine, but with top five I need at least one film that I can point to and say that this is a great film even for people outside the genre
and my #4…
Star Wars
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Barely missed my list.
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wow, see i figure this is one that is kind of assumed
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Episodes 1-3 were just too bad.
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ok, episode 3 is not bad
its not great, but its not bad
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It’s bad.
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and Empire Strikes Back is probably my favorite science fiction film of all time
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“Anakin, you’re breaking my heart”
“If you’re not with me, you’re against me!”
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yea, but then they fight with laser swords for like an hour
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Two reasons why I hated that movie.
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epic laser sword battles
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Action does not equal good movie.
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it can
regardless, Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi are so good that you can just ignore the others
plus, as a commercial machine there is just no comparison
It has permeated every other form of entertainment, and created a fandom that is pretty intense
but I don’t think anyone needs me to really explain star wars
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Once again, I don’t think commercial equals good movie, but I’ll give you the other points.
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commercial equals successful franchise
and when you’re talking about great franchises, to ignore commercial success is ridiculous
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Transformers.
Thank you, let’s move on.
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no
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My number 3.
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you dont get to end the debate like that
transformers is a very successful franchise
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Yes I do.
And a horrible one.
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there is not denying it has some bad movies, but that doesn’t completely disallow it from being important and relevant
whether we like them or not, there is a great fanbase for those films
and that is certainly worth something
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I agree. I don’t add the commercial success into my argument though.
Success does not equal greatness, but it does equal dollars, which I do not have.
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success certainly can equal greatness
Alexander the Great is called “the Great” because he was so successful
I’m taking into account commercial and critical, when you’re talking about a franchise you’re talking about the strength of a brand or name
and ticket sales certainly can tell you that strength
having said that, Transformers is not on my list
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Thank you for helping my point.
My number 3:
The Batman franchise.
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K
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As everyone knows, I love superheroes.
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should we discuss it now or later when it shows up on mine?
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Well, we’ll wait for you.
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ok, my #3
Lord of the Rings
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Which is my number 2, so we’ll discuss.
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indeed
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Indubitably.
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pretty much a massive achievement
it really feels like one movie, not three separated
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Agree.
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For me, it shows how to put faith in an idea and go with it
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Technologically, it showed that great CGI does not have to take away from fantastic direction.
The world of motion capture, which is everywhere nowadays, has to thank Gollum for its emergence in the industry.
The director’s cuts are just fun.
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especailly for showing how to do it right
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I can watch all of them over and over.
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Andy Serkis owns that part
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They’re just about as perfect as you can get in a movie franchise.
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honestly, the best DVD/Blu ray set that exist right now
there are so many extra features, so many commentaries, the extra scenes are all seamlessly put back into the films
honestly, when i see the theatrical cuts they feel wrong to me
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No one will be able to top the DVDs, I completely agree.
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ive been watching them on blu ray, and they hold up so well for being a decade old
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Seriously…they could have been released last week, and they would still hold up beautifully.
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although some of the minatures are starting to look like minatures, on the whole the films look beautiful
it put Weta on the map, and showed how to adapt a difficult source material into something workable on screen
people don’t talk about the writers enough if you ask me, the moved a lot of things around for the films, but it all feels right and doesn’t betray the books
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And now we’ll get to see how Andy Serkis next week play an ape!!! We’ve come full circle over the last decade.
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well really we’ll come full circle when The Hobbit comes out
and we see him playing Gollum again, I wonder if they’ll update the character model much
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Let’s pray it’s good…we might have to move this series up or down the list.
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i have great expectations, all the same crew and everything they’ve shown so far looks great
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Ok, we just did my number 2, so what’s yours?
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Batman
You know when I said that I want a film to point to and say “This is a great film” no matter the genre?
Obviously I was talking about Batman & Robin
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Clearly.
I’ve talked about The Dark Knight and Batman Begins quite a bit, but I really don’t want to take anything away from the greatness of Tim Burton’s films.
After the fiasco that was Superman: The Quest for Peace, it really seemed like the genre was never going to recover.
And yet, he somehow made it into one of the most successful movies of the 80s, even 90s.
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yea, Batman 89 is so good
the gothic nature of batman is really played well
and although I prefer Nolan’s take, Burton’s take was certainly valid as well
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Now, we should mention Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.
They both suck.
Bottom line.
But the other 5 in the series are so good, they really overshadow them.
Yes, I meant 5.
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Batman Forever I can handle at very specific times, and Batman & Robin is hillarious
but yes, they suck
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I include the Adam West movie in that list.
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some days you just can’t get rid of a bomb
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Because Caesar Romero as the Joker = most frightening thing put on film.
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I would like to point out, that The Dark Knight was so far the only time I’ve been speechless after a film
I literally said nothing on the car ride home because I was just mulling it all over in my head
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See, I think I had the exact opposite reaction.
I couldn’t help but talk constantly for the next three days straight about the movie.
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I talked about it later, but for that hour or so after I just had to let it sink in
that is not normal for me, I usually discuss it immediately
I did also see it three weeks early, so I had few people to talk about it with
ok, I bet I can guess your #1
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Psh…there’s no way you could ever…oh wait.
Yes, my number 1 film franchise of all time is none other than the Toy Story franchise.
I know, it surprised me too that it’s my number one.
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it is a great franchise
perfect scores for all three films
perfect consistency in style and acting
also: made a lot of money
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This franchise has more of a personal connection to my life, than any other series, and yes, that includes the Superman film series.
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I am shocked not to see Superman on the list
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See, I tried to take out as much of my personal affection as possible.
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wait.. hold the phone
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That was a joke, sir.
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then why no superman?
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Because, as much as I love it, and as much as it has impacted my life, I can’t find it in me to put it above any of the other five series I have listed.
Just a gut feeling.
I feel like I’ve betrayed myself somehow, but I just justify putting it above any of these series.
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Well I would certainly argue that two out of five aint great
but I know your response to that
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That it’s actually four out of six.
Anyway, I saw the original Toy Story in theaters more than any other movie ever, I’m pretty sure.
I played with all the toys growing up.
Make your “I played with my Woody joke” as you will.
The second movie had the first ever video game I bought for my N64.
Even though the game sucked, it was still fun and memorable.
And the third movie…
I swear, it broke my heart.
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Toy Story for SNES is good
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I never cried as much during a movie as I did during Toy Story 3.
It was just the absolute perfect ending to the series, and, as you mentioned before, our childhoods.
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I agree, I hope they don’t make a 4th but they are hinting at it
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I might not see it if they make it.
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it would probably be good, but as it stands now I like the franchise where it is
and don’t lie, you’d be in that theater day one
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I really don’t know if I would.
I just don’t want those last few images of the movie to be ruined.
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they cant be
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Well, Star Wars ruined the way I saw Darth Vader, so there you go.
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I see him as I did when I was a kid, and I see prequel Darth as a different character all together
no matter how hard Hayden Christiansen tries, he can’t make Darth Vader less of a BAMF in Empire Strikes Back
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To each his own.
So, try to convince me James Bond is the best franchise ever.
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k, here goes
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Oh, sorry, did you want to reveal that?
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#1 – Longevity, 50 years old
#2 – Awesomeness, James Bond is just plain cool
#3 – Great Films, Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only, Living Daylights, License to Kill, Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Casino Royale are all great films
#4 – Everyone knows 007, at least a quarter of the planet has seen a Bond film
#5 – Awesomeness Again, James Bond is still cool
#6 – Survival, there is no reason to believe they’ll ever stop making Bond movies
#7 – Books, We Don’t Need no Stinking Books, they ran out of source novels and they kept going anyway. suck on that Harry Potter
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You done?
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#8 – Icons, gunbarrel, bond girls, bond gadgets, bond cars
#9 – Christopher Walken
I could go on, but I’ll stop
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Ok. I’m not going to argue with you, because I’ve done that enough already with your obsession with this series, which I won’t judge, but rather ponder.
What I will say, on my part, is that only 4 of the Bond films are “great”.
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thats one more than toy story
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Some of the ones you mentioned are good.
Some are ok.
The ones you did not mention…bad, or very bad.
I’m not counting by the number of greats, but rather percentage.
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that favors short series
easy to have 100% with only three films
and never having to recast your lead
or deal with the collapse of the Soviet Union
But those were just my objective reasons
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Haha…blame it on Russia, why don’t you.
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Subjectivly, I grew up with the series
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I would certainly put Bond in my top 10.
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also, no Bond movie has ever lost money
almost forgot that one
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Haha…you want to just make your own post on the greatness that is Bond?
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I could make a post every day about it
because its true
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We’ll agree to heavily disagree.
Just out of curiosity, any series that barely made the cut?
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barely didnt make the cut you mean?
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Ok. I’m not going to argue with you, because I’ve done that enough already with your obsession with this series, which I won’t judge, but rather ponder.
What I will say, on my part, is that only 4 of the Bond films are “great”.
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thats one more than toy story
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Some of the ones you mentioned are good.
Some are ok.
The ones you did not mention…bad, or very bad.
I’m not counting by the number of greats, but rather percentage.
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that favors short series
easy to have 100% with only three films
and never having to recast your lead
or deal with the collapse of the Soviet Union
But those were just my objective reasons
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Haha…blame it on Russia, why don’t you.
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Subjectivly, I grew up with the series
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I would certainly put Bond in my top 10.
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also, no Bond movie has ever lost money
almost forgot that one
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Haha…you want to just make your own post on the greatness that is Bond?
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I could make a post every day about it
because its true
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We’ll agree to heavily disagree.
Just out of curiosity, any series that barely made the cut?
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barely didnt make the cut you mean?
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No, that you almost put on your list, but didn’t make it because they were cut.
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you don’t know the phrase correctly sir
if you make the cut, you get in
as in, there was a cut but you made it
if you don’t believe me, we can let the readers decide
and yes, here is my expanded list to 10
The Godfather, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, Star Trek, Godzilla
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Like I said, almost put Star Wars at five.
Thought about Indiana Jones.
That was it.
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didnt even consider the Godfather?
only two films that are constantly ranked as the best ever made?
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Can’t say I did.
Didn’t cross my mind.
Don’t know why, just didn’t.
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k
whelp, guess you better get started on your favorite film scores
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I can do that.
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great, I’m excited
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I can tell you what won’t be on my list…
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k
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Plan 9 From Outer Space.
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really?
I’m kind of shocked
you know what won’t be on mine?
Leonard Part 6
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What about Parts 1-5?
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maybe…..maybe
Chris
1 Toy Story
2 Lord of the Rings
3 Batman
4 Harry Potter
5 Terminator
Andrew
1 James Bond
2 Batman
3 Lord of the Rings
4 Star Wars
5 Toy Story
Total
Batman 7pts
Lord of the Rings 7pts
Toy Story 6pts
James Bond 5pts
Harry Potter 2pts
Star Wars 2pts
Terminator 1pts
Review #13 – Captain America: The First Avenger
SPOILER alert, the Nazis lost WWII
19:31 Andrew
ready to review captain america?
19:31 Chris
Sure thing.
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k, well I saw it in 3d btw
not by choice, by necessity of our waitress sucking and taking too long
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Stupid waitresses. How dare they take their time so one or two people may enjoy their meal in peace?
Well, mine was a 2D screening.
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you weren’t there, ask anyone who was. she sucked
but, let me just say a few words about the 3d
as far as post converted films go, it was pretty good
the effect was actually close to as good as something shot in 3d
however….
the conversion process obviously took its toll on the brightness of the film
and that actually bothered me a lot
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Oh no…the dreaded dot dot dot…
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it lets you say something, and then immediatly take it back
i like susie, however….
she is kind of a slut
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Poor Susie.
I think you saw the wrong version.
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maybe if she wasn’t spreading her legs for every guy with a dollar
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Because the 2D was quite colorful, yet muted enough to feel enough like a period piece. Does that make sense?
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now, i had a problem with the color palette
I don’t need it to be hard core sepia toned to know that its the ’40s
the Nazi’s do that for me
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I completely disagree. It was not hardcore, but enough to make the film seem like it was filmed at an earlier period, and added to the nostalgia of the piece.
If anything, I think it was too colorful.
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the movie i saw was not
i don’t have a problem with muted colors, but so much brown!
saving private ryan is not colorful, but it doesn’t do the sepia thing
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It’s different though when you’re trying to distinguish yourself from the rest of a movies in a series. They needed to do something to age it somewhat.
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like i said, nazis do that just fine
anyway, overall what did you think?
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My favorite of the superhero films of the summer, by far, no question. I liked Steve as a character, and I liked the pacing. Only thing I didn’t like that much, surprisingly, was the over the top villain.
I really thought I would love Hugo Weaving as Red Skull. I was wrong.
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I was bored
yea
just nothing in the movie really got me excited
I can’t point to a scene that I though was really bad, but the whole experience was just blah
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I have a feeling, since I know the character of Captain America pretty well and saw a lot of nods to the comics, that I will be defending this movie quite a bit for the decisions it made.
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defend away, doesn’t change the fact that it did nothing to make me care about anybody
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I loved how they took their time to get Steve to the Captain America set, I loved how he was still a joke even after he became a superhero, I loved that he didn’t turn into a douche, and I love that I was emotionally connected enough by the end to actually shed a tear for Cap when he sacrifices himself.
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ok, let me break that down for you point by point
weak steve rogers was annoying and the effect sometimes looked great and sometimes looked really creepy
the dancing bond salesmen bit was really boring and i don’t think it made sense within the logic of the movie
I do like that they didn’t do the part where he becomes drunk with power so I’ll give you that
and I wasn’t emotionally invested because all of the relationships were rushed through
We didn’t get to experience Steve and Bucky really fight together outside of a quick montage
so when he fell from that train i felt nothing
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Oh, how very wrong you are. I’ll explain them point by point.
Weak Steve Rogers needed to be established because there were so many men like him during that time. WWII wasn’t a war like the ones we have grown up with. The entire country was behind it (whether we believe in it now or not is a different story). Steve is the pinnacle of the everyman who wanted to help but couldn’t despite wanting to more than anyone.
I know the big criticism of his character is that he’s so gungho and naive, yada yada yada.
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boring
thats my criticism of his character
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Guess what? So was the entire country! Talking to my Grandfather a few years ago, who was in WWII, he said he had a few friends who tried seven, eight times to get in but couldn’t because they were too small, too weak, whatever, and it broke them apart.
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thats all fine
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That dilemma is a really interesting juxtaposition to the type of soldier we are used to seeing post Apocalypse Now.
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I have no problem with naive and gung ho
none at all
i have a problem with boring
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And why did you think it was boring?
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because he was one note
he had the “I’m weak but want to fight” and that was all I felt we got out of him
his efforts to get signed up could have been a great way to establish his ingenuity better than just giving a new fake name
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We got that he was a social outcast. We got that he was actually brave despite being weak. We got that he actually had some battle tactics towards the end and actually was a military strategist behind everything despite his shortcomings.
But I know I’m not going to convince you, so I’ll move on.
The second point I made, that it was fun watching him fail even as Captain America, was my favorite part of the whole movie, and it’s very possible that it was because I’m a fan boy and that’s where a lot of the classic 1940s comic references came from.
However, I really like the idea, which has not been explored in any other superhero movie yet, that these heroes have the potential to be used by the government for propaganda despite their great strength and potential to change the world.
It actually was a sequence that is making me look at the state of the genre differently.
Let’s face it, Captain America was designed to be a piece of propaganda to help the war cause before he became a real character in the comics. I thought that reflected nicely in the movie.
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I think it failed to make any sense at all
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How? The entire theater I was in was cracking up laughing, and even my friends who don’t know how to watch movies like us said they loved that part.
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ok, you have a guy who the government just spent crazy money on, during a war mind you, and instead of testing their creation and finding out what he can do, how he can be utilized, etc. they just let him drive around the country as a mascot
poor stanley tucci got shot, and they just shut down the whole program
cause they don’t have roger Oppenheimer and albert Einstein able to jump on that research or anything
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Exactly!!! He was, in this world, the first superhero. They didn’t know what to do with him as a weapon, but our country knew how to rally the public behind a cause.
It makes sense that they would use him in that role before they made him a soldier.
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they never intended on making him squat
he did that
they said, well we could try and develop this program farther OR we can let him sell war bonds
yea, that is a great military choice
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And yeah, that’s a bit of a plot hole with stopping the project, but it’s not the worst one we’ve seen with any given superhero movie.
The senator was in charge of funding the project…of course they did what he said! He wasn’t a military strategist.
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either way, the joke wore off quick for me, because I was waiting the whole movie for captain america to actually do something
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And he totally did when he had the chance.
That invasion of the first Hydra station showed they made a mistake with him.
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about that, I hated how after he became captain america, instead of seeing him go on a mission we just got a montage of missions
and then im supposed to care about this crew, even though they haven’t developed the characters at all
oh, he’s important because he has a big mustache
oh, he’s important because he’s proper british
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I don’t think they developed them enough, but to be fair spoiler alert Bucky Barnes, the only one we were really supposed to care about, comes back in the comics. So he’ll be back in the sequel for sure.
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I am aware
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I didn’t like his character.
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nope, he did nothing
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I hope they do him better in the sequel.
However, the love interest, I liked.
I got her and Steve’s relationship.
I felt bad for Steve that it wasn’t able to go further.
The two of them just made sense to me.
I felt for them, if for no other reason than I felt the actors’ chemistry.
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they were good togther, although id like to point out that she was british serving in covert american military programs
doesn’t really make sense
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Yeah, it didn’t make sense. It makes sense that cellphones can turn into radars for Batman though?
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yes
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You are blinded.
By the bat.
Haha, I made a funny.
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or, they address it as a thing int he movie
they run a telecommunications company so them making a telecommunications device is not unheard of
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Ok, before we forget, we do need to talk about Red Skull.
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they never say why a british chick is this close to state secrets
he was red and a skull
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Stereotypical evil man who wants to take over the world. I hated him.
I really hope now that he’s one with the universe that he’ll be more interesting than he was in this movie.
20:19
about his weapon thingy
what great advantage did it really have?
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The Cosmic Cube?
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it made you just as dead as a bullet did
it looked cool, but I see no real tactical advantage to the technology
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Less clean up.
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i guess
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Saved hours on custodians that had to sweep up the bodies.
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I will say that I also dont like how he breaks away from the nazis
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Basically, it was a macguffin that was put in place for The Avengers and the real use of the Cube.
20:22
that might be comic canon, but i thought it made it a lot less fun
20:22
Joe Johnston’s explanation made sense…
I read an interview, and he said he didn’t want Cap fighting the Nazis directly because he didn’t want to take anything away from the soldiers who actually did the work, so he needed a separate battle for him to fight.
20:23
bah
20:23
And I respect that as a creative decision.
20:24
I don’t
I want to see Captain America kill nazis
its a fantasy, it doesn’t hurt the memory of veterans
One major plus I’ll give the movie though, Captain America kills and uses guns
if they had tried to convince me that he only takes prisoners I’d have had a real problem
20:25
Ok, not that I need to ask to have a general idea, but overall rating?
20:26
ummm, well I didn’t like it much, but I didn’t really hate it either
two out of four I guess
20:27
Could have fooled me.
20:28
I was just telling you all the ways i was indifferent to the film
and why I was so
nothing was really TERRIBLE
20:28
Really, because all I read was why you didn’t like it, haha.
I’m giving it 3 out of 4 latex face masks.
Would have given it higher, but it was really a set up for the Avengers when it comes down to it and didn’t wow me in any major area, even though I really enjoyed it.
20:30
there is not one scene of this movie that I will remember vividly in a week
hence my “blah”
20:31
I’ve been singing that War Bond song all week, haha.
20:31
I’m glad we do these via computer then
Review #12 – Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2
SPOILER alert if by some act of God you don’t know what happens yet
Chris 20:20
In honor of the incredibly cliched Harry Potter reviews that have come out over the last few days, I think we need to insert as many magic related puns as possible into our review. Agreed?
Andrew 20:21
I’ll do my best
20:22
I will not commence reviewing until you say ok with a magic related pun.
20:23
abracadabra ok
can we move on now?
my wand is stiff with anticipation
20:24
Better….and somehow worse at the same time.
So, initial thoughts?
20:24
I thought it was about as good as I could have hoped for
the action was spellbinding
20:26
Ok, I know that what I’m about to say will probably lose me about half our readership, but I have a job to give my honest to God opinion.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2…was just OK.
I didn’t feel as much of the magic as most other people seem to have.
It did its job.
But that’s about all I can say.
20:27
really? I’m surprised to hear that
did you see it in 3D perchance?
I did not for the record
20:27
No, I did not.
I saw in the way it was filmed.
20:28
no need to get pompus about it malfoy
20:30
I don’t know…unlike all the other David Yates films in the series, this last movie just felt rushed, which is ironic of course after splitting the final book in two.
What I loved about the series up until this point was that Yates took the time for the audience to get to know these characters, and there were just too few moments that made me really care.
The moments that were supposed to be emotional got me, and yes, I cried on multiple occasions, but I can’t help but think it was because of the atmosphere of the theater rather than my own feelings.
20:32
Well I didn’t cry, mainly because I’m not a pussy, but I did enjoy the film quite a bit
I didn’t mind the fact that it didn’t character build, they’ve done that with 7 other movies
20:32
I would like to think it’s because you have no soul, but continue.
20:33
so I took this as the finale of one continuous story, or at least the second half of a four hour film
and even then, I thought there were some good character moments
The only thing i really disliked was that they cut out the entire Dumbledore might not be perfect backstory
and by cut out i mean “stupified”
20:35
I said the exact same thing when I walked out of the theater. There were quite a few things from the final book I wish they would have had time to slytherin.
20:36
lets take a moment to let that one sink in
wow….
20:36
Come on Andrew, you can’t be so sirius about these things.
20:37
speaking of slytherin, do you like how professor Hardcastle McCormac just segregated the school and sent them to the dungeon?
that wasn’t in the book was it?
20:38
No, I didn’t, because it took away from the epilogue in that there were good students that came out of Slytherin. Leaving that in the film really made Harry seem like he was lying to his son at the end.
20:39
I
I
I’ve made my thoughts known about the whole school setup before I think, but that one really crossed the line I think
sorry, my keyboard stuck
20:40
It’s ok. We all stutter sometimes.
But it’s ok to be petrified every once in a while.
20:41
I regret my decision to indulge in this idea of yours
20:41
I think we should do it for every review from now on.
But let’s just keep Rowling along here…
I really felt like the scenes before Harry “died” were the best in the film by far.
20:42
The initial battle of Hogwarts?
or the Sixth sense part
20:44
I’m referring more to the scenes where Harry comes into the Great Hall and realizes he has to make a sacrifice, followed by the flashbacks of Snape, followed by him saying goodbye to Ron and Hermione, followed by the Sixth Sense part, followed by the Avada Kedavra.
Daniel Radcliffe gave his best performance of his career (that I’ve seen) in those scenes.
And he didn’t really have to say a whole lot.
20:45
Yea, I think they all did a good job. I’d single out Alan Rickman as being particularly awesome
also, Ralph Fiennes
he played Voldemort great once he started to get vulnerable
side not, this is an awesome story
In the July 18 Newsweek, on playing Voldemort: “I once walked past the young child of a script supervisor, and he burst into tears. I felt very good about myself.”
20:47
As he should. I thought he was by far the scariest he had been in the series in this film.
He finally toned down the camp just enough to make me really feel his desperation to kill Harry.
20:48
I’ve liked him throughout
He’s practically satan, no need to tone it down
but damn, that fetus thing was gross
20:50
I just always thought he was a tad over the top. His performance before this film was a bit off.
But yeah, that abortion thing looked pretty riddikulus.
20:51
Whats that Dumbledore? Oh, just a back alley abortion, lets walk over here
they were shopping for a new macbook i think
20:51
In the middle of King’s Cross, no less.
You know, there was an Apple store right across the street of King’s Cross…they might have forgot to turn their lights off.
20:53
anyway, back to the lack of Dumbledore backstory
it bothered me because I think that was a vital part of Harry growing up, learning that adults aren’t perfect
For me, that was a pretty big deal
when I realized that all these older people are just as stupid and confused about life
20:55
As it was for me. It seemed like a great deal of the slow motion material could have been taken out in favor of more exposition from him about his life.
Though Neville slicing Nagini in half may have been the highlight of the movie for several young nerds in the audience.
20:57
so i just realised im not getting all your messages
hold on a second while i sorting hat this out
20:57
Speaking of that…I did like that they had a few extra moments for some of the lesser students from the series, i.e. Cho, Seamus, Dean.
21:00
wow, so this is going to take a while to fix
lets keep going and I’ll try to do it afterwards
this new facebook chat is really pissing me off
21:01
I hate it too.
21:02
right there, didnt get that
but it went to the message feed
i’d use that, but since I can’t copy and past out of it its not very helpful
21:03
Just switch to the message feed then.
21:04
ah, theres the rub
well lets try to do this, and I’ll manage
yea, so did that chick who liked ron die then?
21:05
Ok. So, what did you think of the return of the Hogwarts students?
21:06
you might want to use the message thingy too
cause I just commented to that effect
21:06
I am, and I didn’t get it.
21:07
I liked that they were there, and then i asked if you notice that the chick who liked ron in one of the other movies was dead in one of the shots
21:08
Yeah, either Parvati or Padma…don’t remember which one died.
And even though I said I liked the scene before, I kind of resent that they threw Lupin and Tonks’ death to the side.
I know you don’t like them or care about them or whatever, but I always did for some reason.
21:09
yea, i have mixed feelings
on one hand, they were important and their death was tragic
but i like that its a little more realistic in that in a big battle, you only find out your friend died after its over
too much going on to notice everyone die
21:10
True. I’ll give you that point.
Even if I still resent it.
21:11
resent away good sir
my other problems stem from the book more than the movie
21:12
Well, I don’t care about those.
Just kidding.
Kind of.
21:12
my biggest wish, was that the series would end with Nevil being the actual chosen one, not Harry
and that, while harry certainly did a lot to end Voldemort’s reign, Nevil would do the actual killing
21:13
But Neville was fat.
Fat people don’t matter.
I bet if he would have made a patronus, it would have been a cake.
21:14
that joke is so old
you can do better
I just think that would have been the ultimate coming of age lesson
the world does not revolve around you Harry
21:16
Neville’s so fat, he has to apparate in sections.
21:16
meh…
neville’s so fat, he has to use two portkeys
21:17
Neville’s so fat, his wand is made of a slim jim.
21:17
there you go, getting better
21:17
I was never good at fat jokes.
I’m probably holding back since I actually like Neville.
21:18
Neville’s so fat he’s had every flavor of Bott’s every flavor beans
I like him too, I was kind of hoping that he’d pull that sword of the hat and lop off Voldemort’s head
just completely deviate from the book
21:21
Ok, so, in your book, how does this film compare to the rest of the series?
21:21
well, and this may change in time, but right now I liked it best of them all
and I say that because I’ve wanted to see magic looks incredibly powerful
and this film has the most use of combative magic
21:23
Ok, I’ll just redo my list from our retrospective, including this film. From least favorite to favorite.
Chamber of Secrets.
Sorcerer’s Stone.
Goblet of Fire.
Deathly Hallows Part 2.
Prisoner of Azkaban.
Order of the Phoenix.
Deathly Hallows Part 1.
Half-Blood Prince.
21:24
interesting
i won’t redo mine, kind of easy to just place it on top
21:26
Yeah, I know people are going to hate me for not listing this as the best movie ever, but I just wish we had more time with the characters. It was all too rushed.
That’s pretty much the hor-crux of my argument.
21:27
I just disagree, I was happy with the pace
Id say three and a half Voldemort fetuses out of four
21:29
Two and half dead goblins out of four.
21:29
oh, one more thing
you get one fuckword in a PG-13 right?
I think they should have changed her line to, “Not my daughter, you fucking bitch”
cause that would have caught me off gaurd like it did in the book
21:30
That’s the general rule for the most part.
21:31
would that not have been awesome?
21:33
Well, it might have caught some off guard, but it’s still a family film for the most part.
21:34
oh come on, there were people getting killed like crazy, not to mention a dude turns into dandruff
21:34
Andrew, you’re not going to weasley yourself out of this argument.
21:36
I got 99 problems, but a snitch aint one
21:37
Aaaannnnndddd……that’s a wrap.
21:37
can we tease our next thing?
I’d like to say a few that won’t be on my list, to get the flame war started
21:39
Ok, to start what won’t be on my list of best franchises of all time…James Bond.
21:39
wow, you just want to be murdered in your sleep don’t you?
21:40
Bitch.
21:40
I will explain to you why that is a major error on your part later
but here are three of mine that wont be on my list, Spiderman, Back to the Future, and Jurassic Park
also Superman
21:42
Ok, I’ll give you three more that won’t be on my list…
Twilight.
Ice Age.
Pirates of the Caribbean.
21:43
k, well i guess we’ll see those lists later then
Marvel Films vs DC Films
Ok, so I was reading an article on IGN and it kind of pissed me off. It was letting users vote on different aspects of Marvel vs DC. I wasn’t really angered until I got to the movie subsection. the choice of films they used for DC was awful, and it was just a terrible representation of what has been created. So I was explaining my anger to Chris when this happened.
Chris 22:15
Well, I can do a thumbs up thumbs down review real fast.
Andrew 22:15
lets find a list
22:15
I got one for Marvel pulled up right now.
I won’t count anything pre-Superman.
Serials shouldn’t really count on this list.
22:16
agreed, that seems fair
22:16
Ok, first on the list for Marvel: Howard the Duck.
22:16
Down
22:17
Really? Not a half thumb?
Clearly a down.
22:17
just down, i say we keep it really simple
22:17
1989 The Punisher.
Never saw it.
22:17
me neither
22:18
We’ll skip that…
22:18
k
22:18
1990 Captain America.
Down.
22:18
Down
22:18
1994 Fantastic Four
22:18
Down
22:18
From what I’ve seen, down for sure.
Blade
22:18
you keeping a tally of this?
UP
22:19
I’ll start the tally, haha.
22:19
cause I’m copying the text
22:20
Sounds good.Give me a sec…
Ok, I give Blade an up.
X-Men
Up
22:21
Up
22:21
Blade II
Down
22:21
havent seen it
22:22
Spider-Man
Up
22:22
UP
22:22
Daredevil
Theatrical cut, down
22:22
DOWN
no cuts, thats bullshit
what was in the theater is all that counts
22:23
Ok…I think that’s the only one we’ll have to worry about besides Watchmen.
X2
Up
22:23
UP
22:23
Hulk
Down
22:23
DOWN
22:24
2004 Punisher
Down
22:24
DOWN
22:25
Spider-Man 2
Up
22:25
UP of course
22:25
Blade: Trinity
Up
22:25
DOWN
22:26
Elektra
Down
22:26
can I say down even though I havent seen it?
I just kind of know
22:26
No.
22:26
lol
22:26
We’re keeping this unbiased.
22:26
????
the whole concept is about our bias
22:26
I know, it sounded like crap to me too.
Next on the list: Man-Thing
Never heard of.
22:27
wtf?
this came out after electra?
22:27
In 2005, yeah. Apparently it was a made-for-TV movie.
22:27
should we count tv stuff?
I say no
22:28
Released outside the U.S.
So definitely no.
22:28
well we haven’t even seen it
22:28
Next: Fantastic Four
Down
22:28
DOWN
22:29
X-Men: The Last Stand
Down
22:29
DOWN
22:29
Ghost Rider
Oh my God, down.
22:29
DOWN
22:30
Spider-Man 3
Down
22:30
DOWN
22:30
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
DOOOWWWWNNN
22:30
DOWN
I do like Doctor Doom, too bad he was in terrible films
22:31
Iron Man
Up
22:31
UP
22:31
The Incredible Hulk
Up
22:32
UP
22:32
Punisher: War Zone
Down
22:32
sorry, missed that one
they really want punisher to work huh?
22:32
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
22:32
DOWN
22:32
Down
Iron Man 2
Up
22:33
DOWN
whoa
shocker
22:33
I bought the DVD, so I had to have enjoyed it somewhat.
Thor
Up
22:33
UP
22:34
And finally (for now): X-Men: First Class
Up
22:34
UP
22:34
Ok, let me do the math real fast.
22:34
I have a list of DC ready
save the list so we can publish it
22:37
Ok, we have 20 likes and 29 dislikes, which gives Marvel films a 41% approval rating.
I’ll keep count of the DC as well.
22:38
k, should we count Batman 66?
22:38
No. It was more of a comedy.
Not really in the genre.
22:38
hmmm, i dont know if I agree with that reasoning, i just thought that since it was pre superman
ok
Superman
22:39
Up
22:39
UP
Superman II
22:39
Up
22:39
UP
Swamp Thing
22:40
Never Saw
22:40
me neither
Superman III
22:40
Down
22:40
DOWN
Supergirl
22:40
Down
22:40
havent seen it
22:41
Wow…we’ll have to watch that.
22:41
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
22:41
Down
22:41
DOWN
Return of Swamp Thing
22:41
Never saw.
22:42
me neither
Batman
22:42
Up
22:42
UP
Batman Returns
22:42
Up
22:42
UP
for Christopher Walken
Batman Forever
22:43
Down
22:43
Down
Batman & Robin
22:43
Down
22:43
UP
just kidding
DOWN
22:43
No, really?
22:44
for realsies
Steel
22:44
Down
22:44
DOWN
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DOWN
Catwoman
22:44
Down
22:44
DOWN
Batman Begins
22:45
Up
22:45
UP
Superman Returns
22:45
Up
22:45
Up for Kevin Spacey and Parker Posey
The Dark Knight
22:46
Up
22:46
can I give double UP?
22:47
No.
22:47
who has two thumbs and loves the Dark Knight?
22:47
ALF?
22:47
Watchmen
UP
22:53
Up
22:53
Jonah Hex
DOWN
22:54
Never saw
22:54
Green Lantern
22:54
Down
22:55
UP
ok, here are the image comics films
Road to Perdition
22:56
Do they count?
Are we counting them, I mean?
22:56
technically it is part of DC
they just rebrand it something else
I say yes
and I didn’t mean image, i meant imprints
22:57
Ok, if you say so…
Up
22:58
UP
A History of Violence
22:58
Up
22:58
UP
Constantine
22:58
Down
22:58
never saw it
V for Vendetta
22:58
Down
22:58
UP
Stardust
22:59
Down
22:59
DOWN, what have you done DeNiro!
The Losers
22:59
What?
23:00
The Losers
I’ve never seen it
23:01
Never heard of it.
23:01
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
23:01
Down
23:01
Sean Connery
23:02
Down
23:02
I cast my vote as “Sean Connery”
23:02
And I’m counting it as a down.
23:02
fine
Red
23:02
Didn’t see
23:02
me neither
The Spirit
23:03
Down
23:03
I would give it a down im sure, but i never saw it
23:03
Is that it?
23:04
thats it
23:04
22 Up, 22 Down
23:04
can I vote for Dark Knight Rises with a plus?
23:04
No.
23:04
but it is going to be good
23:04
And I went through and double checked the Marvel ones, and I counted wrong.
It was actually 19 up, 28 down
So 40% approval rating.
23:05
so, FACT DC is better than marvel
23:06
When it comes to film, yes.
23:06
isnt that all that matters?
Vote Recap
Marvel
Up:
2 Blade
2 X-Men
2 Spider-Man
2 X2
2 Spider-Man 2
1 Blade: Trinity (Chris)
2 Iron Man
2 The Incredible Hulk
1 Iron Man 2 (Chris)
2 Thor
2 X-Men: First Class
= 20
Down:
2 Howard the Duck
2 Captain America
2 Fantastic Four
2 Blade II
2 Daredevil
2 Hulk
2 Punisher
1 Blade: Trinity (Andrew)
1 Elektra (Chris)
2 Fantastic Four
2 X-Men: The Last Stand
2 Ghost Rider
2 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
2 Punisher: War Zone
2 X-Men Origins: Wolverine
1 Iron Man 2 (Andrew)
=29
41% Approval Rating
DC
Up:
2 Superman
2 Superman II
2 Batman
2 Batman Returns
2 Batman Begins
2 Superman Returns
2 The Dark Knight
2 Watchmen
1 Green Lantern (Andrew)
2 Road to Perdition
2 A History of Violence
1 V for Vendetta (Andrew)
=22
Down:
2 Superman III
1 Supergirl (Chris)
2 Superman IV
2 Batman Forever
2 Batman & Robin
2 Steel
2 Catwoman
1 Jonah Hex (Andrew)
1 Green Lantern (Chris)
1 Constantine (Chris)
1 V for Vendetta (Chris)
2 Stardust
2 League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
1 The Spirit (Chris)
=22
50% Approval Rating
Mini Review #1 – Game of Thrones
You’ll notice that this review is listed as a “Mini” Review. Just in case you are an idiot, that means that it is shorter than normal. Essentially you are looking at Chris and I having a random conversation about something. We didn’t decide to review it necessarily, it just happened. We talk about the entertainment industry a lot, and sometimes it is long enough to be interesting, but too short to really be a review. Thus, here you get a Mini Review. This first one is about the HBO television series “Game of Thrones”. If you’ve read our review of “Horrible Bosses”, then you know how we got onto this topic. These types of posts will be pretty sporadic, and hardly ever premeditated. So, enjoy the randomness.
-Andrew
Major, epic SPOILERS ahead.
Chris 21:00
Ah, TV. The answer to all our problems.
Andrew 21:01
speaking of TV, just finished Game of Thrones
excellent if I do say so myself, you should watch it
21:01
I’m the one who told you to watch it.
Like, three months ago.
21:02
So you’ve seen it through then?
21:03
Of course. We can discuss it later. We should probably get through this review first though.
21:03
Oh I thought we were done with that review
21:03
Oh, that’s cool with me, haha.
21:04
We can just move right into a TV show review lol
can I say one thing, Fuck EW
21:04
For what?
Ruining that Sean Bean died?
21:05
for giving away that Ned dies
yea, no spoiler alert or anything, just reading along and, oh whats this? a list of some sort? blah blah blah, shocking death of Ned Stark FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I never would have seen it coming
21:07
It was one of those deaths that was so in your face that you just knew it was never going to actually happen.
Then he loses his head.
21:08
he really needs to stop signing up for characters that die early in otherwise epic franchises
21:08
Eh, it works for him.
21:08
most shows don’t kill of their main character in the first season though
21:08
He’s been good in each of these roles.
I can’t think of any show that has done that, honestly.
21:09
I will say, to the credit of the show, that I still had a pit in my stomach when they did it
it still had a massive impact even though I knew it was coming
if it was brave to do in the book, it was 10 times as brave to do in a tv series
especially since they advertised around him and everything
21:12
I think that shows how great the supporting cast is though. You feed the audience that there’s going to be this star in the show, feature him in the ads, then show them how cool the rest of the cast is so when you kill the main guy, you don’t feel like the show has to end.
21:12
yea, i feel so much hate for that kid
I want so badly for them to destroy him
although, I like the Imp, as they call him anyway
too bad he’s on the other side of things
but I’m sure he’ll get out of any danger
21:14
Oh yeah. You can’t kill the Imps. They’re like the dogs of this world.
21:15
So originally I was under the impression that this was more like a forgotten history than it was a fantasy, and then they had zombies and dragons
but I like that the “magic” type stuff is subdued, it feels more impressive because of it
21:16
Exactly. It’s Lord of the Rings for adults.
21:18
Westeros looks remarkably like Britain btw
Review #11 – Horrible Bosses
Don’t try to murder us because you read these SPOILERS.
Andrew 19:51
i have seen horrible bosses sir
Chris 19:51
Work that bad?
19:52
I don’t have a job
so no
19:53
Well, I have a seen a particular movie involving bosses that are less than desirable.
19:55
and what say you to the quality of said motion picture?
19:57
I say it was much more enjoyable than what I expected going into it. It was quite a treat, in fact.
19:57
I had pretty high expectations going in, I enjoyed the trailer quite a bit
and I was very entertained
I think the chemistry of the three leads really helped the movie
19:59
Well, they clearly had fun filming together, which certainly helps when you’re filming a comedy. I must say, however, that I only really enjoyed watching two of the three leads.
20:00
who did you not care for?
because if you say Charlie ill punch you through this monitor
20:02
I just am not a person that has enjoyed watching Jason Bateman in any of his roles post Arrested Development. He plays the exact same character every single time, and hasn’t shown any variation on these characters over the past 8 years. It just felt stagnant on my end.
20:03
you are wrong
although he plays a similar character, he is certainly not stagnant
I enjoy his style, and I think he has some of the best comedic timing
they had to have a straight man of the group too, so that the other two could be crazy
one crazy horny, the other just crazy in general
20:07
He has played the exact same character in every movie he has been in over the past 7-8 years. I really do not like actors who show me the exact same thing over and over again. Call it Will Smith syndrome.
20:08
He’s a slightly quirky guy who is always surrounded by larger than life characters and makes a decision he regrets only to learn from his lesson in the end.
20:08
if its the same thing but its good, then I have no problem with it
i laughed at his antics, so I have a hard time saying he did a bad job since it was a comedy
were the point is, well, to laugh
speaking of which, this is the first real comedy we’ve reviewed
20:09
You don’t include Transformers: Dark of the Moon as a real comedy?
20:10
sure don’t you sarcastic bastard
but seriously, i think it is important to note
20:11
That was very hurtful, Andrew. I’m very sensitive about these things.
20:11
to me, there is a whole different level of criticism at a comedy that is different from drama or action
20:11
Well, it just so happens that there really hasn’t been that many comedies that have been released this summer with the exception of Bad Teacher.
I still judge movies based on three basic criteria, regardless of genre, which is 1) did it entertain me? 2) was it an original and captivating story? 3) were the technical mechanics of the film well done, or even innovative?
For Horrible Bosses, I’d say 1) yes, 2) yes, 3) nothing to cry home about, but pretty good for this genre..
20:15
see I only judge based on one criterion
was it compelling?
20:16
Well, I’m clearly the pickier of the two.
20:16
I don’t see it as less picky, because all other criticism derives from it
how is it compelling? it made me laugh
it was unique
it was well shot
but its fluid, so if I laughed a lot, which I did in this film, then that can make up for what was pretty standard camera work
but I don’t grade down if the technical side was mediocre
20:20
I’ll usually only grade down if the technical snafus call attention to themselves and take me out of the other things. Now, of the three bosses: Who was the most horrible?
20:21
Kevin Spacey for sure
mainly because he’s so aware of what an asshole he is and is actively manipulating people
whereas Colin Ferral is pretty much what you see is what you get
20:24
Cake will be involved somehow.
20:25
umm…. what?
20:25
Now, *major spoiler alert*, I would like to point out that for the first time in one of our reviews, the awful white guy was the first to die! This is a cause for celebration.
That should have come first.
20:26
oh
well it didnt
and it was confusing
you do know we tag these with spoiler alerts right
20:27
I could have just really wanted cake.
Yeah, but most people don’t pay attention to them.
20:28
that is completely their fault
I feel no pity on them
may God have mercy on their souls
anyway, I have to agree with the characters in that Charlie’s doesn’t seem that bad
20:30
Ok, now that I’ve talked up both Kevin Spacey and Colin Farrell, I have to admit something.
For the first time since Office Space: I have enjoyed Jennifer Aniston in a movie.
Remember what I said about Justin Bateman before?
This was the exact opposite for her.
And it clearly paid off.
20:32
well she’s only really been doing chick flicks, so not really my cup of tea to begin with
but certainly she has not played this type of character before
20:33
Her scenes with Charlie Day made me visibly uncomfortable in the movie theater, but I couldn’t help but laugh during all of them. She did a very good job in this role. Not as good as Kevin Spacey in his role, but still a very good job.
20:33
She was also really good in Leprechaun
in case anyone is looking for a film to rent
20:34
Ooh, one of my favorites. Warwick Davis at his finest.
But yes, Kevin Spacey was the highlight of this movie for me, and I found myself on several occasions actually wishing the movie had been about him and his wife instead.
Excuse me…him, his wife, and his teleporting freaky cat.
20:36
I loved the cat jokes
20:37
Seriously, that first cat jump might have been the best moment in any movie of the summer, if for no other reason than I think half the theater peed themselves at the exact same time.
20:37
The only thing I had a problem with, and I hesitate to say it was a negative, is that I wish the bosses had somehow all ended up killing each other because of accidents by the main three
I say that as a negative, because when Spacey killed Ferral, I thought “oh great, this is how its all going down! thats hillarious”
but then it didn’t happen that way, and the way it did happen was funny too, but not as good as what i thought was gonna happen
20:39
I just loved it that Colin Farrell was brutally murdered on screen and I didn’t have to look at his face for the rest of the movie.
Did I mention I really don’t like tools?
20:40
how else would we build things Chris!?
what an irrational hate
20:40
Lego buildings don’t require tools to make.
20:41
or to destroy
20:41
See? Everything should be made of Legos.
20:41
actually i do have a little lego separator tool
helps get the flat ones off, those are always the worst
20:42
Ok, I have to mention one last performance in the movie before we go: Jamie Foxx. How brilliant was that character?
And you can feel free to say his name, if you would like.
20:43
I didn’t feel like I needed permission
I liked Motherfucker, but I wasn’t blown away or anything
maybe its because I don’t really like Jamie Foxx much
what I did like was that they named him Motherfucker, and the story behind it
20:45
I thought that whole scene was brilliant. Just a very well written joke.
20:45
I enjoyed it, but it wasn’t the highlight of the film for me
20:45
Ok then, what was the highlight of the film?
20:46
I loved Gregory
specifically how calm he is, and how he banter’s with them in the car
20:50
While he was completely racist, I will agree he was very funny.
My highlight of the film involved three simple components. Charlie Day. Kevin Spacey. Peanut butter sandwich. Mix the three together using an Epipen, and you have comedy gold.
20:51
I don’t know how much I agree that Gregory is racist
nothing about his character is mean spirited
and in the end, his great customer service saves the day
although, there was a lot of evidence to convict Spacey of the crime
20:53
It doesn’t have to be mean spirited to be racist…but I won’t get into that argument, especially since I said it was funny.
The real crime of the movie was that those three guys somehow got off scott free for contemplating to kill three other people.
20:54
I think it does actually, because nothing about that character was portraying any group of people as inferior
and thinking about killing is not a crime
attempted murder is, but I dont know if they ever actually got to that point
well, i guess he did bring rat poison to the house
so maybe that would get you in trouble
20:56
But making plans to do it is, isn’t it? That’s why people who hire other people to kill someone go to jail.
20:56
i think the bringing rat poison and peanuts would be enough
but they’d also have to have found motherfucker, and gotten him to testify
I have lawyer skills like Charlie, all from law and order
20:58
We really think too much into these things.
20:58
ipso facto, they’d probably get off free
due to the fourth amendment
21:00
Ah, TV. The answer to all our problems.
21:01
speaking of TV, just finished Game of Thrones
excellent if I do say so myself, you should watch it
21:01
I’m the one who told you to watch it.
Like, three months ago.
21:02
So you’ve seen it through then?
21:03
Of course. We can discuss it later. We should probably get through this review first though.
21:03
Oh I thought we were done with that review
Review #10 – Harry Potter 5-7
If you see these SPOILERS, you can’t use a time turner to undo it.
Andrew 21:34
ok
lets do this
Chris 21:35
I guess I’m ok with that.
21:35
you better be
21:36
Well, there is an intense Cardinals game happening right now, but I have to do my duty.
21:37
network tv or fox sports?
21:37
Internet for me actually.
I think it’s on Fox Sports Midwest, which I don’t get.
21:38
im looking for it
got it, fs midwest
double fucking play you ohio bastards
ok, so about harry potter
Obviously we broke up the series based on David Yates’s taking over directing duties
how do you think Yates changed the series?
21:40
Really? I thought we just went in half, but that’s cool too.
21:41
then we should have stopped halfway into goblet
21:42
David Yates was an incredibly interesting choice for director for these movies, since he had never directed a specifically designed big screen film.
The only thing I knew from him was The Girl in the Cafe, which is a little known but very powerful movie he directed for HBO, if I’m not mistaken.
That being said, I think he found the perfect blend for these movies and took it in exactly the right direction both stylistically and narratively.
21:44
yea, for a relative unknown, he turned out to be exactly what the series needed
both stability and a great balance of the fantastical and real
21:46
Now, when I say perfect blend, I mean that he took the visually dark style that had been established by Alfonso Cuaron in PoA and devotion to telling the stories as faithfully as possible that had been established by Chris Columbus. Mike Newell tried it with GoF, but I think Yates perfected it.
21:47
yea, i know these more recent films get flak for not having as much detail, but the books here are huge
there is just no way to fit in all the subplots
I know we were just talking about it, but I think OotP was way too long as a book
21:48
It was. OotP could have been trimmed by 200 pages if Rowling would have taken out half of the explanations of why Harry was complaining and angsty.
He’s a teenager now. We get it.
21:48
he’s a pussy of a teenager
i started hating him a little in that book
21:49
That being said, I think Order of the Phoenix is the only movie that is actually better than the book.
21:49
hmmm, I dont know
ive never really thought about the movies being better or worse than the books
21:50
I know you don’t know. I say things that are controversial, and you disagree with them. It’s kind of our schtick.
21:51
ok, I think we are above self referential humor
but i say I dont know because I dont
not because i disagree necessarily
I don’t usually try to compare books to movies, they’re so different
21:52
In terms of which one I enjoyed more, I’ll definitely go with the film.
It just worked better seeing Harry go through all his teenage angst and try to read it through his actions and emotions than seeing every single thought that went through his head.
21:53
yea, i think they toned it down a bit too
21:53
This particular book was just one that works better cinematically than it does in written word.
21:53
I really like luna lovegood as a character
the actress they found nailed it
with that slight irish accent that makes you sound a little stupid
sorry irish people, you know its true
21:54
I think her look of bewilderment was what helped her in this case, not the Irish accent. She just looks a little crazy, in all honesty.
21:55
she looks a little crazy, but i think its the delivery of her lines that makes me laugh
and her sincerity really comes off well
21:57
Well, as much as I love Luna, she was not my favorite new addition to the cast from that film.
That honor, of course, has to go to Imelda Staunton as Dolores Umbridge.
21:58
she is pretty much perfect
21:58
Seriously, could they have cast a better person for that role? She almost seemed born to play it.
21:58
that damn laugh of hers
I’m a little conflicted about her though
On one hand, she’s perfect for the role and makes you just hate her soooo much
but on the other, I hate her so much that it starts to become frustrating
and I get it, thats what I should be feeling
but I dont like it
I just want to yell at all of them to stop putting up with that bitch
22:01
I think that’s a credit to Yates and her.
22:02
HOME RUN CARDINALS
I would hate to be from Ohio right now
22:03
She’s one of the most despicable women on the planet. You’re not supposed to be happy that she’s torturing Harry. She’s there to represent the absolute worst that any school system has to offer.
22:03
i know
I get that
and i respect the movie for it
I’m just saying I don’t like the anger i feel for her
i dont like feeling it
it is a double edged sword for me
22:05
Speaking of swords…how about that climactic duel between Dumbledore and Cranky Mc-Nonose?
22:05
that was a terrible joke
i apologize to the readers for my colleague
it was really cool though
the glass shards turning into sand
awesome
22:06
And you yell at me for the self-referential humor.
22:06
but that was just…. an apology was needed
22:08
I love that the whole series, you hear that Dumbledore is the ultimate wizard and the only one that Voldemort feared, but you don’t ever really understand why until that moment. It’s kind of like Yoda in Attack of the Clones, only it didn’t make me laugh out loud at the absurdity.
22:09
yea, thats a good analogy
although i did like yoda’s fight scene
i think thats the only way to do it
but back to harry potter
I was just amazed how unique it was, it was a fight that only could work in this universe
22:10
Exactly. I think, when I saw this in theaters, that was the moment when I realized how much the universe of this film just felt right and that they could get away with scenes like that without the audience ever feeling like it couldn’t happen.
22:11
we better get moving on to HBP
22:12
I saw HBP when I was in Colorado with a couple of friends. I say this, because it is one of my favorite movie-going experiences ever.
I was surrounded by people I love in a place I love watching characters I love in an adaptation of my personal favorite HP book.
I can’t stress enough how much I love this movie.
22:13
wow, its my favorite book too
I don’t think it is my favorite movie though
but it is certainly up there
22:14
Well, we haven’t gotten to DH:P1, have we?
I’ll tell you the reason why I love this film so much…Voldemort/Ralph Fiennes is not seen in the current story line at all in the film.
However, his threat is larger in this movie than it ever was before.
They showed by the end of the film how much his forces have grown, and the audience feels the losses. That means you have built a universe worth buying into with a threat that feels dangerous.
Not only that, but I think Daniel Radcliffe showed his best acting chops of the series so far at the end of the film.
22:18
Yea, I like it because it gives some good backstory, it builds Dumbledore up as a good, dimensional character, and it ends with a great shocking and emotional moment
also, those lake people a terrifying
and the fire swirl thingy dumbledore does is impressive with the sfx and music
22:19
Also, how amazing is the photography in this film? Everything from the castle to the flashbacks is just gorgeous.
22:20
i love the liquid feel of the memories
how people drop in like ink
now, this is one where the subplot and the title of the film seems almost forgotten
the Half Blood Prince stuff gets kind of sidelined
22:22
I think that was kind of the purpose…you’re supposed to forget about the sideplot in this movie so the big reveal at the end is that much more shocking.
22:22
i thought it was much less shocking
i thought the book made it feel much more important, and in the movie you’re like, oh yea thats the name of the movie
22:23
Well, you don’t have any real emotions, so it doesn’t surprise me you feel that way.
For example, did you cry at the end of the film?
22:23
no
why would i
im not a woman
22:24
Because you’re a soulless being, my friend.
22:24
also, you know he’s coming back in the last book
in some form
I will admit, the wand light scene was pretty good
Ok so here’s the deal. I brought some stuff up that would certainly spoil things if you haven’t read the last book. I wanted to put it in, but Chris seems to care about not ruining things for people or integrity or something. So I was persuaded to hide the following comments in case you don’t read books like some backwater hillbilly. If you do want to read what we had to say, head to the bottom of the post and highlight the big block of black text. Otherwise, continue on your ignorant way.
-Andrew
22:34
so, Deathly Hallows
I hate the name
but I loved the movie and book
22:36
What would you have preferred?
22:36
Harry Potter and the Most Awesomest Battle Ever
22:37
I was thinking more along the lines of Harry Potter and the Battle of Hogwarts, but that would appeal to the highly coveted teen male audience.
22:38
how about Harry Potter and the Boring Forest Scene in the Middle
22:38
Which works really really well for the movie!
22:39
the forest scene? no, it doesnt work
the movie had all this momentum and then it just comes to a screeching hault when they pitch that tent
22:39
That’s what she said.
I loved the scenes in the forrest.
It reminded me of why I fell in love with these characters in the first place.
The books and movies have and always will be about those three characters, and for the first time in a while, we had almost an entire movie devoted to showing how far they had come as characters and as actors.
22:41
It reminded me of what I needed to get at walmart later on
because i started to zone out
22:41
It was necessary to do before the final part, which is going to be an all out war.
Take the time to let us remember the journey and what these three had gone through to get there.
22:42
See, when they break into the ministry of magic I got the team dynamic
because they were doing something
not just yelling at each other in the woods
22:42
They were surrounded with all the other kids though…it was more than just the three of them.
22:43
I’m sorry, but that forest stuff is what makes me put HBP above DH as the best book in the series
22:44
And, without those scenes, we wouldn’t have gotten to see a naked Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe since apparently Harry is going to be clothed in the one scene from the finale where he was naked in the books…
And really, isn’t the Harry Potter franchise all about the sex?
22:44
….no
no it is not
anyway, we did get billy mac in this one
so thats pretty awesome
I wish he had said that he felt it in his fingers, he felt it in his toes
22:45
I mean, you knew he was going to be in the series at some point after The Girl in the Cafe.
22:46
yea
22:46
It was just a matter of who.
22:46
i think it was a good choice
too bad he wont be in the next one
22:46
Davey might throw a few surprises at us. You never know.
Like a credit sequence similar to what they did with LOTR.
You know, I was talking about it earlier today, but it really is amazing that this series has kept the entire original cast all the way through, with the exception of one death and replace.
I can’t think of any other film series that has accomplished that.
22:48
yea, it helps the series i think
although they changed professor ugnaut from a crazy gremlin thing in the first two to just a midget with a hitler stash
same actor, different makeup
22:49
Flitwick. His name was Flitwick.
I would have also gone with Ewok.
22:50
no, he looks like he belongs on cloud city
inspecting Han’s carbontie frozen body
22:52
Except Warwick Davis wasn’t in Empire Strikes Back, was he?
Get your little people actors straight!
22:52
not talking about actors
talking about ugnauts
22:53
It’s pretty ridiculous that you know what they’re called.
22:53
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgxrdpjzH21qa8syoo1_400.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/harrypotter/images/a/af/Flitwick-film.jpg
22:54
Those will both give me nightmares.
22:54
good
22:55
Now, one last little thing I wanted to mention about DH:P1.
I absolutely hated the character of Dobby in CoS.
And yet, I totally was rooting for him and kind of sad he died in this movie.
Why did that happen?
22:56
i dont think you are unique
even if he is annoying, he is innocent
so since he only wants to help, and then saves peoples lives, it makes it all the more tragic
although, i gotta say, they buried him on the beach and you know wild animals are going to dig him up and eat him
22:58
He would be a pretty decent meal for a baby werewolf.
22:58
he might as well be a free meal if he’s gonna be a free elf
do you feel that? thats how i felt after your joke earlier
22:59
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I am audibly loling.
22:59
so, rank them
all seven
23:00
Ok, in order of least favorite to favorite.
Chamber of Secrets.
Sorcerer’s Stone.
Goblet of Fire.
Prisoner of Azkaban.
Order of the Phoenix.
Deathly Hallows: Part 1.
Half-Blood Prince.
23:01
ok, here’s mine
Chamber of Secrets
Sorcerer’s Stone
Goblet of Fire
Order of the Phoenix
Prisoner of Azkaban
Half-Bllod Prince & Deathly Hallows P1 TIE
23:03
Psh. Since when has there been a tie in ranking Harry Potter movies?
I think you’re just indecisive.
23:03
I think they are both really good
23:03
You have to have liked one over the other though.
23:04
I honestly can’t say that I do
Had Deathly Hallows not had camping involved, it would have one
23:05
Ok…I’m holding your copies of HBB and DH:P1 over an endless chasm. You can only save one. Which one would you save?
23:05
I don’t own them
so you can’t do that
23:06
I am holding every known copy of HBP and DH:P1 over an endless chasm. You can only save one. Which one would you save?
23:06
I push you into the chasm, then go to your house and take your copies since you wouldn’t risk those
23:07
And there you have it folks…Andrew loves Harry Potter more than me!
Make sure to include that in your official ranking.
23:08
no, you’re just being a jerk for threating all the copies of harry potter from around the globe
I’m doing the world a service
23:08
Not the globe. Just you.
23:08
you said every copy
thats a dick move man
I’d probably get a medal for pushing you into that chasm
23:10
Well, jokes on you! I had the final Horcrux with me, and now you’re going to get killed by Voldemort!
23:12
wow, that is probably the nerdiest thing you could come back with
23:12
I pride myself by that fact.
22:26
Didn’t make it any less emotional. The man was actually killed by another man that he authentically cared about.
22:26
but he wanted him to
22:26
Don’t give it away!!!
22:26
I believed snape was a good guy from the start
and I’ll put a spoiler alert for everything at the top
22:27
We’re only doing spoilers for these three movies…not the final one!
22:27
the book has been out for like five years
they can deal with it
22:27
Four.
I really don’t think you should put it in there, because I know for a fact some of the people reading it have not read the book and will get mad.
22:28
I want to address it though because I think the scene is important to look at
with that knowledge
Gambdon does a great job with that line, “Severus, please”
22:30
He does leave things very ambiguous. You really can’t tell which way he’s saying it.
22:31
see, i feel like it could be interpreted as ambigous. But I think he just sounds exauhsted. He’s begging him to do it and I think had I not already known I’d have figured snape was doing it oh his request
Facebook Chat News, What it Means for the Site
Hey everyone. I guess you may have heard that Facebook recently announced some new features to their chat program. If you haven’t, I’ll try to catch you up to speed. First of all, they announced that video chat is coming to Facebook. The other major announcement was group chat. Both of these could be very useful tools for Chris and I. Obviously, a video chat would be something fun and different. It would be interesting to see how our format works in that way. We plan on looking into it as an option, but the hurdle will be recording it. If anyone has any ideas on how to do that, please let me know. Don’t worry, we have no plans to convert to exclusive video chats even if we can figure out how to make it work. We like the way the text reviews read now, and would not want to sacrifice that.
However, a more immediate opportunity arises with the group chat. My idea is that from time to time we may invite in a guest reviewer to chat with us about a film important to them. Again, this is not something that would be for every review, but more like a special event we do on occasion. If anyone thinks that they would be a good fit, please comment and tell us why. Also, tells us what movie you’d like to review. Thats all I have to say for now, look forward to the next Harry Potter Retrospective as we should be posting it sometime later today. Thanks for reading! As a gift, please enjoy this photo of a basset hound running.
-Andrew
Review #9 – Transformers 3
These Prime SPOILERS aren’t Optimal unless you’ve seen the movie.
Andrew 15:53
were you not entertained?
Chris 15:57
By Transformers: Dark of the Moon?
15:57
yes
and by gladiatorial combat
15:58
I actually will say this: this Transformers movie kept me very entertained, possibly more so than any movie this summer besides Super 8.
However, I was entertained for all the wrong reasons.
15:58
that seems unfair, but do explain
15:59
I think I will describe this movie in the future as a 2 1/2 hour WTF moment.
15:59
well what constitutes a “wrong” reason?
16:00
There were just so many moments when I thought, sometimes audibly, “What the hell were they thinking?”
This was a vast improvement over Revenge of the Fallen, both as a movie and as entertainment, but if I’m entertained because I think it’s funny how none of Shia LaBeouf’s stunt doubles matched him, or why Rosie Huntington-Whiteley was only half dressed for half her time on screen, or why there were no transitions between scenes, or thinking during the movie about the gaping plot holes that are quite funny to think about…that’s a wrong way for a film to entertain me.
16:03
so your saying, the movie didn’t entertain you, the movie’s mistakes entertained you
in a similar way to liking “the room”
16:04
They’re one in the same in my book.
There were sections of the movie that actually did draw me in and had some form of suspense, which is much more than I can say for Revenge of the Fallen, but what has stuck out to me 24 hours later is how many stupid moments there were and how funny they were in retrospect.
16:06
my overall feelings are that at times it was really cool and at others it was really boring
I touched on it last time, but I really hate how they try to reset the status of the universe and no one knows about the transformers
I’m sorry, but the information would have gotten out
and making Sam look for a job doesn’t engage me at all, he’s right, he should have some sort of government job since he saved the world twice
but then the last hour or so i was really into
16:09
It took a really really long time to get me actually interested.
16:09
yea, i think that was its downfall
16:09
I eventually got sucked in when Sentinel reveals his betrayal, which is about half way through the movie.
16:10
i hate these sequels that try to reset things to how it was in the first movie. Just continue on from where you are and tell a different story with that setting
16:10
For quite a while I was really into the movie, and at some point, either before or during the attack on Chicago…I started internally ridiculing it again.
16:10
i enjoyed everything post Chicago
but i hated how they skipped over the initial invasion
this is the most important moment in human histroy…. ever
and the just cut around it
look at something like battlestar galactica and they handle the human reaction so something so devastating much better
16:12
Well, that’s just the thing…the humans are as robotic as any Decepticon in these sequels.
I honestly could have cared less if any of the characters, secondary, minor, or major, had died.
16:13
i was most sad about ironhide and starscream
so that might be a problem
16:14
Except for the fact that they tossed Ironhide’s death to the side like it was no big deal, and Starscream had such a bitch death.
It was a good 60 seconds of him running around crying about his eyes.
16:14
well starscream is kind of a little bitch
thats why i love him
16:15
Which, btw, it took these people 3 movies to figure out that the secret weakness of all these robots are their eyes?
And if that really is their weakness, how lame is that?
16:15
ok, well why don’t we just go over all the lapses in logic at once
16:15
Ok, I’ll start with the big problem I had:
If Sentinel had made a deal with Megatron before escaping Cybertron, how come Megatron didn’t tell the Decepticons not to shoot his ship down???
16:16
why do they say they’ve discovered aliens for the first time when they had megatron locked up in the hoover damn already?
16:17
Since when has Sam learned how to parkour?
16:17
why did the black hole cybertron not suck the earth up?
16:17
Why did John Malkovich disappear after the first 45 minutes?
16:17
why didnt sentinal take the matrix of leadership if he planed on betraying optimus?
why did john malkovich only have one upper tooth
16:18
Why didn’t Starscream see the Autobots escape the space shuttle?
16:18
why didn’t they nuke Chicago?
most people there were already dead
16:19
How did the Autobots walk from Cape Canaveral to Chicago in a few hours?
Without being seen?
16:19
how long was optimus in those cables?
16:19
Why did it take these robots over 20 minutes to cut him down from said cables?
16:20
how did optimus kill megatron with only one arm when megatron killed him in the last movie?
who was albert einstein guy?
16:20
Why did Frances McDormand sign up for this movie?
16:21
also, i wish cybertron had a face so when it got close to earth a graphic would have come up that said “Dawn The Third Day”
16:21
Does that make Sam Link and Carly Princess Zelda?
16:22
and spock was the skull kid
why was ken jeong in this movie
damn was he annoying
16:23
Why does Michael Bay need naked man butt in every one of his movies?
16:23
it does seem like a theme
also, patrcik dempsey? yea he was terrible too
16:24
That whole subplot just didn’t make sense: what was his obsession with Carly, and what was he really going to gain by helping them out in the long run?
16:25
especially since he could have stopped it
16:26
Exactly! And why did they have to throw in the random bit about him being a race car driver or whatever? Were they trying to build character then suddenly remember what movie they were making and tossed it aside?
16:26
you know, this is starting to sound like nit picking but in all seriousness, I was thinking these things while watching the movie
its one thing to go back and look for problems, its another when they’re so obvious that you cant not think about them
16:27
We didn’t have anything else to think about during the first hour! If you have problems and nothing to care about on the screen, we’re going to get nitpicky.
16:28
yea, but again, i really liked parts
I thought the action in the movie was fantastic
16:29
I would have been ok with the action if they hadn’t completely forgot about physics during some of the sections.
16:29
what, like survivng a building collapse?
i enjoyed that
16:30
While it was visually beautiful and looked really pretty in IMAX 3D, I was thinking the entire time the building was falling over…why are these people going so slow down the side of this building? Once they got back in the building, the decline suddenly went from about 45-50 percent to 15 after they stopped sliding.
Yes, that’s nitpicking, but I noticed it during the scene!
16:31
hmm, I bought into the action at that point
I was just having fun so it didnt bother me
the only things that bothered me in that last bit were the jump cuts
16:31
Now, I feel like I beat this movie to a bloody pulp, but I would like to mention the things I thought improved during the movie.
16:32
by jump cuts i mean when they were suddenly all captured
that didn’t make any sense, one moment they killed starscream and the next they were tied up about to get executed
but please, move on to positive
16:34
Thank you…for one, the plot of this movie/overall mission was much easier to understand. Both the Decepticons and the Autobots/humans had a clear goal, and it moved towards this goal during the entire film.
The action scenes were much better in this movie, particularly the robot on robot fights because they took time to set up the majority of the bots, given them some sort of personality, and not have them blend together in one big metal ball during the fight scenes.
And, I would like to point out: while she seemed like she should have been in a completely different movie, Frances McDormand’s character is the first strong female character who does not rely on men to do things for her that we have seen this summer.
16:36
i liked the plot premise, especially the apollo mission stuff
I’ve never had a problem understanding what is happening in the fight scenes
16:37
Speaking of Apollo mission…WTF cameo by Buzz Aldrin?
16:37
but I thought some of the action in this one was easily the best of the series
and francis had to rely on the autobots to save everyone
so…..
what did she really accomplish on her own?
16:38
She was the only human to actually stand up to these robots!
16:38
?
16:38
Sentinel is blowing up their entire base, and she just walked in and told him to stop!
16:38
did he?
how strong is she?
16:39
He didn’t listen, sure, but you didn’t see Josh Duhamel do that.
16:39
cause he’s not an idiot
hey, stop that
stop killing people
thats not nice
“oh you know something, your right. im sorry”
cause thats a real scenario
16:40
You’re such a sexist.
16:40
i have no problem with her being a woman
but yelling at a guy who obviously doesn’t give a shit about you is kind of dumb
also, there were sandwiches that weren’t getting made while she was doing that
16:42
I’m not going to dwell on this character, because I am clearly right here.
Megan Fox 2.0. Better or worse than 1.0?
16:42
worse
16:42
…because?
16:43
didnt need her in the movie, and the scene where she “convinces” megatron (who is just kind of chilling btw) to kill Spock was so stupid
16:44
Well, Megatron clearly needed a hood as a disguise early on in the movie. He had to blend in with all the other giant robots.
16:44
yea that was hillarious
16:45
My thoughts on Carly….waste of space.
How many slow motion shots of her ass do we need in a movie?
16:45
need is a strong word
16:46
Or would you rather look at her constipated face as exploding shrapnel falls down around her?
16:47
she’s also too tall for shia
she doesn’t seem gettable either
megan fox at least looked like she would possibly go for him
16:48
So what you’re saying is…Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is more attractive than Megan Fox.
16:48
nope
but its the type of attractivness that seems a little too high class for him
id put her british accent in meagan fox and then you’re good to go
16:50
Ok, wrap up…sum up the movie. Go.
16:51
moments of entertainment are buffered by insignificant plot details in a movie that could have been 45min shorter
16:52
I’m going to recommend this movie, if for no other reason than the sheer entertainment of watching Michael Bay and those he surrounded himself with try to be serious filmmakers and make one of the best comedies of the summer instead.
2 gratuitous butt shots out of 5.
16:53
id go with 2.5 dead ironhides our of 5
16:54
We can do halves?
16:54
fine, 2 out of 4
i do what i want
